**
Mel Bosworth: You
wrote a book!
Ben
Hersey: Yup. Years in the making. Steamrollers was/is a real band. Been around
since at least 2000, played about 30 shows, at most. We write all the songs
(more or less) live and pretend that we're a shitty bar band in a shitty venue
somewhere north of Boston. I got really excited by the weird shit that was
coming out of our shows and started taking notes and arranging a series of
possible stories around this character I played in the band. The character took
off. Lots of live shows and years stewing in the gore of Mass culture and
history.
MB: You good at
pool?
BH:
Not good at pool. In the mid 90's I spent so many nights in a grungy candle-pin
bowling alley / pool hall in Malden that we all just called "Charles
St." I'd stare at pool tables and the games people played and got to know
the people playing and the jukebox music (Crimson and Clover, Hotel California)
but I never played. Never felt the game speak to me. Pool was never as
interesting to me as the people playing it and the situations going on in the
cigarette smoke with the filth on the floor and the walls. I went there again
and again. I loved it there for awhile.
MB: You like
music?
BH:
Music's a friend. I've been in lots of bands. I was in a band called Viking
Funeral. We played two or three shows. I think it was our last show that was in
this big crowded loft in Northampton. Shortly after we shaved our chests, the
bass player shot a fire-extinguisher into the air above the audience. The room
filled with a chemical cloud that seemed to self-expand. Obviously the room
mostly emptied, but we continued to play. I remember spitting and gagging
and carrying on. We were young!
MB: You ever for
real know a guy named Gardenhose?
BH:
Nah, kid. Lotsa Derricks. Buncha Mikes. Buncha know-it-alls, buncha
sonnofabitches. Buncha mechanics and athletes and drunks and drug addicts. All
good people even when they fuckin sucked. I'm so glad those old days are behind
me, but I'm so grateful for them, too.
MB: What is it
with Massachusetts? Eastern or Western?
BH:
Massachusetts is my physical and spiritual epicenter. Both sides have very
different meanings for me. Eastern is my homeland, my birthplace, the site of
all my personal disasters and agonies growing up. I wanted to explore the
pulverizing effect of regional pressure on individuality. If you're not one of
us, go fuck yourself, kind of attitude that thrives—or at least thrived—in
Malden growing up. I think that's probably changed since I've been gone.
Western MA is the place I escaped to and it's the place I discovered how to be
myself, how to be creative in communities where people were off the charts
crazy, exploring weird zones nonstop. I learned so much about trusting the
inner genius watching, listening to and collaborating with so many dedicated
artists out here. I love both sides, but western Mass has been home for a long
time and I'm happy about that. The root of my being comes out of greater
Boston, but I love it here.
MB: The end of
the book is deeply moving and satisfying. Nicely done! You ever been to the
Hoosac tunnel?
BH:
Yeah, I been there! It's a spooky place that feels like it shouldn't exist.
It's like if you trekked down a mountain into a wet New England valley to see a
lion in a cage or something. It feels like it just shouldn't be there. There's
something about it that forgot to die.
MB: Some days I
can’t even. Can you?
BH:
Pre-Trump, I mostly could. Freakish, inborn optimism mixed with a healthy
familiarity with personal tragedy seemed to give me a frame of mind where I
could treat most situations like an opportunity to learn something. I know
that's all still there, but now everything feels so much more
urgent/confusing/new. He's been president-elect for a month or so and I've been
so obsessed studying the contours of the chaos that seems to be on the horizon,
that I'm already starting to feel tired. How much is too much? How much too
little? How do activists not burn the fuck out? I need training.
MB: What’s for
dinner tonight?
BH:
We went very hard at some pizza slices.
MB: Best
sage-like advice you’ve ever received?
BH:
Too many good options to narrow it down. It's some combination of "Go fuck
yourself," mixed with "Give up all hope of fruition," rolled
into "Nothing lasts," wrapped up in Rammellzee saying from behind one
of those mythological toy-masks, "give."
MB: Now what?
BH:
I just want to reconfigure everything I write and my performance work to
somehow more productively contribute to a resistance against what seems like
world-conflagration. Want to continue to listen and to serve the future. Want
to be a friend and a force. Want to continue to cultivate a role as a teacher
and to help people do good works. Don't know what my performance work will look
like in this new context, but I'm getting ready to creep back out there, I
think. I have a chapbook type thing of performance scripts from the last year
or so and a mountain of written fragments related to a history of Maine. Not
sure what place any of this has, but I'm committed to continue making,
creating, teaching, parenting, as part of my life-work as a world citizen. I
have so, so, so, much work to do.
**
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